{"id":1067,"date":"2011-02-11T00:53:07","date_gmt":"2011-02-11T06:53:07","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.orderofephors.com\/?p=1067"},"modified":"2011-02-11T00:58:56","modified_gmt":"2011-02-11T06:58:56","slug":"religion-and-democracy","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.orderofephors.com\/?p=1067","title":{"rendered":"Religion and Democracy"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Maurice found this and sends it on for us to share.<\/p>\n<p>Upheaval in the Middle East. The West is panic stricken. Its own<br \/>\npolitical systems (the result of hundreds of years of slow evolution)<br \/>\nlead it to believe that the will of the people is paramount. So the mob<br \/>\ntakes over. The West supports what it thinks is democratic change but<br \/>\nin fact after a false dawn of moderation, gets a crueler, nastier<br \/>\nregime, more autocratic regime which poses a far bigger threat to world<br \/>\npeace. For its pains, or incompetence, the West is vilified and<br \/>\nrejected.<\/p>\n<p>Beware of what you wish for. This happened thirty years ago in Shia<br \/>\nIran. It happened with Hamas in Gaza. It happened with Hezbollah in<br \/>\nLebanon. It is happening again now in Egypt. I have no doubt that out<br \/>\nof the turmoil it will be the Muslim Brotherhood that will eventually<br \/>\nemerge as the government and the first thing it will do will break off<br \/>\ndiplomatic relations and repudiate the peace treaty with Israel. The<br \/>\nsame may happen in Jordan next. At best Egypt will go the way of<br \/>\nTurkey; at worst, Iran.<\/p>\n<p>Autocrats who lose the goodwill of the major part of their citizens are<br \/>\ndoomed eventually. But what do you get instead? It is often said that<br \/>\nthe Arab world is not amenable to democracy. The &#8220;Arab Street&#8221; is a<br \/>\nprimitive, prejudiced mob, lusting for revenge, not peace. Perhaps, but<br \/>\nI wonder if what fuels this is just desperation. It seems to me there<br \/>\nis a very powerful and disturbing religious undercurrent. In many<br \/>\nsituations religion often loses its domination when things go well;<br \/>\nmaterialism wins. But when economic life gets tough, the fanatics offer<br \/>\nthe only hope&#8211;if not here and now then later on. Mubarak and the rest<br \/>\nof them have failed in their corruption and their inability to improve<br \/>\nthe lot of the majority of their people. Religion is the obvious answer.<\/p>\n<p>When nasty, corrupt strongmen are deposed on a wave of popular<br \/>\nopposition, they are always replaced, perhaps not immediately but soon,<br \/>\nby fanatical fundamentalist, clerically dominated absolutists like<br \/>\nHezbollah, Hamas&#8211;the sort of people who would rather shoot up and then<br \/>\ndemolish a Western-funded leisure center in Gaza than allow young men<br \/>\nand women to have fun together. Yet many in the West would rather pat<br \/>\nthemselves on the back and feel good about supporting fanaticism, so<br \/>\nlong as it is in someone else&#8217;s back yard.<\/p>\n<p>But Islamic fundamentalism is not only a result of poverty,<br \/>\ndisillusionment, and political oppression. The Wahhabis spread their<br \/>\nfanaticism from wealth and opulence in Saudi Arabia. Perhaps it is Arab<br \/>\ninferiority, because it once stood proud powerful but now has been<br \/>\novertaken by others and all it has left is the wealth that nature<br \/>\nplaced underneath its backsides rather than its once vaunted<br \/>\nintellectual creativity.<\/p>\n<p>Islam was not always repressive. Under the Umayyads who originated in<br \/>\nDamascus a thousand years ago, it spread enlightenment, tolerance, and<br \/>\ncivilization into the barbaric remains of much of the old Roman Empire.<br \/>\nThe Abbasids in Baghdad and the Safavids presided over one of the<br \/>\ngreatest eras of intellectual and poetic culture in human history. The<br \/>\nCrusaders were a bunch of bloodthirsty thugs in comparison to the<br \/>\ntolerance, dignity, and sensitivity of Saladin. The Ottomans under<br \/>\nSuleiman the Magnificent looked down on the primitive intolerance of<br \/>\nthe Christian West and welcomed the Jews it expelled.<\/p>\n<p>It is the mix of religion and social and political circumstances that<br \/>\nis the powder keg. All religions have good humanitarian sides to them,<br \/>\nbut they also all have jingoistic, exclusionary, dark depths too.<br \/>\nReligion itself is not necessarily opposed to democracy. There are<br \/>\nplenty of examples throughout Jewish history and texts where the will<br \/>\nof the populace has to be and was taken into consideration, and even<br \/>\nmonarchs being subject to constitutions.<\/p>\n<p>Look at non- religious examples. Initially the West was deluded into<br \/>\nbelieving that after the Soviet Union collapsed Russia could become a<br \/>\ntruly democratic state. In fact it has turned into a corrupt<br \/>\nkleptocracy, the largest and most powerful mafia state in the world,<br \/>\nwhere opponents of the regime are murdered or jailed, and justice is<br \/>\nbought by the ruling powers and the corrupt new &#8220;upper classes&#8221;.<\/p>\n<p>Is China such a wonderful alternative? It might be dynamic materially<br \/>\nand get the trains to run on time. But it supports violent and<br \/>\nrepressive petty dictators from North Korea, Myanmar, to Zimbabwe. It<br \/>\nsuppresses its citizens&#8217; freedom of thought and speech. It still<br \/>\nvenerates Mao, responsible for more deaths than any other figure in<br \/>\nhuman history, a sexually corrupt, evil man. Are these examples we want<br \/>\nto see spread?<\/p>\n<p>All political systems go through upheavals and have their bloody<br \/>\nconsequences. The West is wrong to interfere. As Edward Lutwak has<br \/>\noften reiterated, whenever Western powers intervene in conflicts and<br \/>\npolitical situations not their own, they inevitably prolong the agony.<br \/>\nBesides, supporting dictatorships elsewhere in the Arab world as the<br \/>\nWest does, its moral authority is nil. It might take a hundred years<br \/>\nbefore the Arab world learns from its own mistakes, but eventually they<br \/>\nwill realize that neither violence , oppression nor fanaticism are the<br \/>\nway to succeed.<\/p>\n<p>In the meantime, the frightening fact is that Israel is now faced with<br \/>\nthe possibility of ideological enemies on all sides, ones that will<br \/>\ncall for blood. And I fear the appeasing West is blind. I am not sure<br \/>\nthat if Israel were invaded Obama&#8217;s USA would come to its aid the way<br \/>\nNixon did. I fear the crazy world might cut the ground from underneath<br \/>\nit.<\/p>\n<p>You know by now I detest most of Israeli politics. I cannot stand<br \/>\nfundamentalism of any brand and I want to see state and religion as far<br \/>\napart as possible. But if Israel is a mess, it is still a far more<br \/>\ncivilized place to live and thrive in than Hamasland or Ayatollah Hell.<br \/>\nThat\u2019s why Israel\u2019s Muslims, for all their disadvantages, would still<br \/>\nrather stay put. For all its faults, Israel is a much better place for<br \/>\nthe ordinary citizen to live in than its Islamic neighbors.<\/p>\n<p>But for some reason the world prefers the narrative of violent<br \/>\nfundamentalism to imperfect democracy. If logic won\u2019t help perhaps a<br \/>\nlittle more fundamentalism might help them see the light of day! The<br \/>\nagony of the Egyptians is, I am afraid, going to be prolonged and it<br \/>\nwon\u2019t be the Children of Israel&#8217;s fault.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Maurice found this and sends it on for us to share. Upheaval in the Middle East. The West is panic stricken. 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